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Snow Glow fox: Fire Factor Gene at its most Finist!!! This fox is a very pale White with light colicott hightlights around the neck, chin and belly, all paws, ears and tail are colicott colored. Absolutly Beautiful Fox!

If it wasnt for fur farms, this fox would never even exsist out in the wild. i cant see making these beautiful colors go exstinct like so many others!


My all time Fave!
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landipan Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Does anyone know where to find pictures of foxes in this color alive? 
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JLestina Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2014  Student General Artist
Maybe a silly question, but what makes this a sun glow fire factor over just a fire and ice? The colors seem crazy similar to me, but I have untrained eyes! lol 
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AdarkerNEMISIS Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
First its not a Sun Glow, second, a snow glow is a paler version of a fire and ice you breed the fire factor out of the red coloration you get a snow glow. a fire and ice have a pale red crème coat and red face while the snow glow has a crème white coat and no markings on the face other than the usual colicott markings on the ears, legs and tail. they are easily distinguished from fire and ice and far from the Sun Glow which is a Marbled fox.

a moon glow is a dark Fire and ice, like a fire factor version of a Silver fox. a cross fox with fire factor is a Fire cross.

Hope that's helps. =)
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JLestina Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2014  Student General Artist
Whoops! Pardon my typo! The sun glow is one fox I can actually point out! 

Yes that is very helpful. It's still tricky sometimes because there seems to be some many color variations of the different...I guess mutations/colors (not sure of the correct term to use there). I can point out the differences now though! I've never noticed that the fire and ice tend to have a redish tented face. Very cool! Thank you for the clarification! :)
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AnGiEdArKdEm0n Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2013
COURAGE TO SEE PEOPLE WHO PROUDLY BOASTS THE FUR IS A CRUELTY!
WHY IS ANIMALS EXTINGUISHING, EVEN IF AN ANIMAL HUNTING NOT STARTED THIS BY THERE BEFORE REACHING ALL ENDANGERED.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF YOU LIKE THAT presumed SKINS HAVE IF YOUR FAMILY FEEL THE SAME ...
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ShiranuiKurai Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2013
this is the most beautiful fox i've ever seen <3  i'd love to have one of my own someday :love:
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mnshortdraw Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013
Snow Glow is one of my favorites too.
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AdarkerNEMISIS Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
yeah their really nice, I had a beautiful one I named TIBIS but I gave him to my sister and her dog destroyed it.

officially I do have a dog skin..........I just have to wait till it dies!
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mnshortdraw Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2013
Oh my, I think I would have skinned him on the spot!
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Fencingfool4 Featured By Owner May 7, 2013
I'm waaaay late on this, so, ignore me, but these arguments were some of the best reading I've had in forever. I can see where they might be coming from, being totally against animal abuse, and before I learned the facts on fur farming I might have be on the other side of this argument. *sigh* Poor education and PETA's cruel practices to make their videos are to blame here.

Beautiful pelt by the way, I've never seen one like it, even with hours of browsing here and elsewhere online, I'm just starting out in taxidermy, but I'm hoping I'll eventually get to a point where I'll trust myself to touch such a gorgeous creature without ruining it.

*goes back to casually browsing gorgeous mounts/pelts*
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MagicCometART Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
These wolfaboo comments make the best entertainment. Especially when they believe human beings and animals are equal, which isn't the case. :P
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AdarkerNEMISIS Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
They actually really are.

Although i do believe they are equal in some sense but killing a fox really isnt equal to killing a person. (which makes no sense either)
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MagicCometART Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I have to disagree. (on the first part) They aren't equal to humans at all. They can feel pain, yes, but they don't have the knowledge that humans do. They don't know they're just animals and that the big rock they live on has a name. they don't know about space. They don't have real knowledge like we do. They're just animals. And I'm not saying it's right to abuse them just for being animals, because that is wrong.

But humans were created to be above animals. To hunt them and eat them. Animals are dangerous (some anyway) and when they're numbers increase that can be dangerous for people's lives and the crops they grow. That's why hunting is important, to keep the population in order. That's helpful for both humans and animals.
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DawnSentinel Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
Oh my gosh, all these stupid 13 year olds bawwing. It's hilarious!
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valhyena Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What an absolutely beautiful color phase <3
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Lady-Satra Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ok now seriously,this pelt is so pretty and awesome,but it would be more beautyful if It was alive.If they will give me a pelt like this I will not use it,but I'll never give it to the trash or something,cause this wolf dies for this.And if It dies and serve for food or something I will be happy,but If he inly dies cause just use the elt then i will be a little upset.
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Nakomii Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
This is a fox. Not a wolf.
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Lady-Satra Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I said all of these and you just look at "Wolf-fox"? I don't care about If it's a fox or a wolf.
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Nakomii Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Snappy. First off he didnt go out and kill it just to use its fur. Second, they DO use all of the fox. The meat is sold and eaten or put into pet food.
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Lady-Satra Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's disgusting.
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Nakomii Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Dont like dont look. No ones going to change our minds.
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Lady-Satra Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well,me neither.
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Nakomii Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Fantastic, agree to disagree, thats that
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liese-L Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
Lol I only clicked on this to see some animal activist comments.
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AdarkerNEMISIS Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
hahahah well I guess you got your entertainment than :lol:

But everybody has a right to voice their opinion its not my place to take that away from them.
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Moondancer24 Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013
Deviantart has a taxidermy section?
This i did not know
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AdarkerNEMISIS Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
yup, but nothing too interesting anyways.
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DemonKitsuneOfNight Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Student General Artist
Oh, wow, what a stunning coloration!

So, is it extinct? Or tentatively extinct?
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AdarkerNEMISIS Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
This color....NO. but these more advanced looking foxes that you hardly see on the production line like the basic Red, silver, marbles, platinums and Hybrids. they will be the first to go and stop being bred if they are no longer desired.

well i guess if you consider you breed a Snow Glow to for say another Fire Factor fox.......25-75% of the pups might not turn out to be Snow Glows. so its a gamble unlike reds and silvers. their basic and easy to reproduce.
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DemonKitsuneOfNight Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Student General Artist
Huh, alright. Because it is totally gorgeous!

Huh, that's a good point. This is why all of this is so intriguing to me! Thanks for all of the info!
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ToySkunk Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Professional General Artist
This is a gorgeous pelt. :D I am amazed at the colours that foxes can come in
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UpsideDownCross Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
you talk about its extinction as you flaunt its skin that it was killed for. ironic.
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coyotewinds Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Dude, this fox's color doesn't exist in the wild. Fur farms make the coloration possible. Kind of like how domestication and selective breeding makes domestic dogs possible.
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Zombie-Kumos Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This colour is bred for pets. It's rare, not wild, but bred by people.

It's a mutation of a plain, non-threatened or endangered red fox. Like all species, there are mutations (polydactyilism in cats, melanistic coloured animals (meaning black but not normally black... Red foxes which are melanistic are silvers. There are also black yotes too... And the most common albinisim) this is one of the very few mutations of this fox to appear in America (most of these are found In Russia for breeding for fur and pets, same as in the US, as well as ranches in Sweden and Norway just for coats.) And. Like beanie babies, there are colours which are "retired" and no longer bred for. This being possibly one of them. Which unlike others bred strictly for fur, will not be torn to pieces (fur industy only uses the back hides. The rest is thrown away.) Is completely different too. It's handled and prepped differently completely.

So although the red fox isn't in danger of going extint, many ranchers who breed for fur and pets do stop breeding certain colour variants and they go "extinct" to never be bred again. Mostly because the fur market doesn't like the colour combonations, or the people who buy exotic pets don't.

Just a blurb about colours and the definition of extinct in this reguard. There is many mutations of red fox, just unless you handle ezotic pets, do taxidermy, or work for a fur company or even work with genetics you don't hear about them much. :nod: I personally am into exotoc animals but I moved to a state where t he y're illegal, and well, taxidermy is the closest thibg I will have since I won't be moving for a while. Haha. I would rather have a legal dead one, than a live one and have fish and game destory it and me be fined up the wazzoo. That's just me.
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UpsideDownCross Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
If you think your "wants" warrant exclusive breeding for murder then i dont give a fuck about what you want dude. legal or illegal.
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Zombie-Kumos Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Lol amd here I was trying to hopefully get some sense into that noggin of your's! And people wonder why I don't try the nice educational manner.

Okay then first; murder only applies to people. You sound like every other uneducated tween on here saying we murder animals. Boohoooos.

Second; I never said you had to agree with anything I said.

Third; animals killed for taxidermy are UNFIT for pets, are extremely agressive and because they do not have proper skills being raised by people, can't be released into the wild. Just like if you have a mean dog, you can't just throw it out unto the wild and expect it to live can you? Same concept applies. Once a human is the sole provider for an animal, it completely is inept when sent into the wild to fend for itself.

Hopefully you learned something about genetics and exotic animal breeding. It's been going on for decades, even centuries, so there is no real point to get all huffy. A bunch of kids on an art site, and a bunch of vegans with picket signs aren't going to tear an empire down.

Also food for thought; freezing temperatures, no food. Fox walks by. You enter survival mode? Kill the fox and eat it and skin it for the pelt to keep you warm? It's what humans have done since day one on earth, if it easn't for fur a lot of nations would be inhospitable, as well as possibly mankind going extinct. So whoops. Somewhere along the lines we all had ancestors who "murdered" animals. Guess we all have some strain of weirdo in us all now don't we? Be it universal homo erectus with fur garb, or great grandma Emily with her chinchilla coat.

Good day.
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AdarkerNEMISIS Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
yes irnoic, that the color disapears when the markets decide they have no use for them.
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UpsideDownCross Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
how would you react to someone killing and then skinning your mom for the sake of "the markets use" for her skin?
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whenwolveshowl Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
well for a start this fox wasnt their mum, plus if we didnt have fur farms imagine all the poor foxes that would get killed in the wild, i myself am gonna take up fox hunting cause the australian red fox is a pest and kills off all of the beautiful native animals we have in australia. we have no fur farms over here besides crocodile farming.
so these foxes are so well treated it isnt funny, most of them end up being fat they eat so well. each fox is treated with care and resepct otherwise the fur wouldnt be nice and the fox wouldnt be nice.
also if you saw that video of the tanuki getting skinned alive that was set up by PETA, the tanuki wouldnt have been killed like that normally, since if you kill something like that the pelt is destroyed and not as good qaulity and the point of a fur farm is to produce quality fur.
i personally if i owned a fox i would let it wear my hair afte ri get a hair cut and than i would wear a fox tail, it seems fair that way but i dont own a fox
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UpsideDownCross Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The whole premise of killing an animal for its skin when there are far better synthetic alternatives for warmth, is just backwards, and killing for style or sport is even more pathetic.

ohh and theyre treated well are they? fed well? Only to be killed for their skin after reaching maturity in this apparent luxury, GREAT treatment, im sure you would happily endure the same existance yourself, correct?

I couldnt care less about peta, its funny how you generalize people who happen to give a shit about life other than human life.

And No matter how an animal is killed, whether by the most expensive euthanasia shot or by skinning it alive, as far as im concerned there is no humane way to murder a living thing, all ways are primitive and cruel. Labeling different forms of murder with "humanity" is an all too ironic misnomer which humanity just uses to justify their misdoings.
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AvisCelox Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Synthetic alternatives laden with petroleum; which aside from being pretty eco-unfriendly, is still made from dead animals, just as much as fur is(fossils, yes, but fossils are made from dead organisms).

See how this works? Death is simply another stage of life.


It's everywhere.


It's unavoidable.



There is nothing wrong with it.

In fact, the very "bloodless" lifestyle you pride yourself on would not be possible without deforestation, oil drilling, pollution, and other crimes far more hideous than simply taking a pelt, with good intentions and respect in mind.



Also: [link]

Before you drop the tired "what if it was a human pelt" argument on me, I'll address that. While I wouldn't have anything to do with human skin personally, I would not have an issue with someone who chose to.
Of course, this is providing that the human in question was not killed for the purpose, but that's only logical. Humans have the legal right to not be killed, since people going around killing each other would not be conductive to a structured and sustainable society, and normal, acceptable-to-this-society humans have an instinctual tendency of altruism to those who share similar genes to them.
Some scientists have examined the idea of rights for cetaceans and primates, but I think unless we become able to communicate with them and they can participate in our society they need no more than basic protections, an extension of what they have now, if anything.

As for, "what if it was your pet," pets are property under the law and there are laws to prevent animal abuse in general (not just for pets); if you killed my dog you would feel the full force of these aforementioned laws. This is the way it should be, as pets are companions and helpers and emotional bonds form between them and their keepers. As a hunter I would say the same if someone had raised and tamed a deer, or if hunters in the area made an agreement not to shoot a certain deer; though it isn't considered property there is a non-predatory bond between that animal and a human.
Same as with small-time farmers' livestock, but in that relationship it is known and accepted that the animal's life will eventually be given to sustain another life.
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UpsideDownCross Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Wow, its common knowledge that oil is created by living things dying over time. Creatures which died naturally, not murdered ( i dont give a fuck about murders "politically correct" meaning, meat is murder) for their skin, or bones, or flesh.

Could you be more redundant? Ofcourse death is apart of life, nobody will argue with that, fur coats, scarfs and rugs on the other hand, are not.

And yes, synthetic clothe does require oil drilling and consequently does have a hand in pollution, but with the levels of drilling dedicated to gasoline, diesel and natural gas, petroleum for clothing is merely a by-product of the auto industry, so to speak, and before you blame north face for polluting and destroying the environment, id take a look at GM. see where im coming from?

And please explain how a vegan or "bloodless" lifestyle encourages deforestation any more than a carnivorous lifestyle does.

And saying humans have the "legal right" not to be killed, and following that with pets being "property by law" is extremely ironic as, humans, believe it or not used to be "property" by law and white humans had a "legal right" to own these slaves. Think for yourself a little, there are many flaws with the law, and living things being property "legally" is just a slave masters argument.

I have no issue with small time farmers killing their livestock if they have no other means of survival, factory farms and farming for money on the other hand, i do have an issue with. As it happens a proper vegan diet is infinitely healthier and more nutritional than an animal based diet, and yes plant proteins,omega 3's and all, there's no argument against vegan diets done right.
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AvisCelox Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
"And please explain how a vegan or "bloodless" lifestyle encourages deforestation any more than a carnivorous lifestyle does."

I will address this first. I won't claim that veganism encourages deforestation more than a carnivorous (I haven't even seen any carnivores around though, have you? I wonder who these carnivores could be) one, but it certainly still involves plenty of it. Well, actually, if you hunt and fish, your meat is not harming any forests, while your vegetables are. You could always grow vegetables yourself, but how many of you actually do? Besides, there are going to be times of year when you don't have fruits and vegetables in your garden ripe for the picking.

"And yes, synthetic clothe [sic] does require oil drilling and consequently [sic] does have a hand in pollution, but with the levels of drilling dedicated to gasoline, diesel and natural gas, petroleum for clothing is merely a by-product of the auto industry, so to speak, and before you blame north face for polluting and destroying the environment [sic], id [sic] take a look at GM. see where im [sic] coming from?"

I understand this. You're being brash, rude, and redundant. However, nobody is making you support petroleum, used for any purpose. Even if you can't remove it from your life completely, minimizing your petroleum use would do a lot more good than complaining over the internet (which you are accessing with a computer made from petroleum-based plastic) about someone's already dead pelt. Do you ride a bike to close places? Use public transportation? Drive a wicked efficient car?
You probably use plastic water bottles every day too. Do you have any idea what happens to those bottles after you toss them? Even if you recycle them doing so costs a great deal of labor and energy. You would save far more creatures doing away with them as much as possible, like I try to do.
Basically, everyone, even vegans, are doing damage to the enviornment, by the very industrialized, consumerist world that made that veganism possible. You can drop the attitude now.

"Wow, its common knowledge that oil is created by living things dying over time. Creatures which died naturally, not murdered ( i [sic] dont [sic] give a fuck [yeah, you're really convincing me here that you're a logical, sound person whose ideas I should bow down and convert to] about murders "politically correct" meaning, meat is murder) for their skin, or bones, or flesh."

"Politically correct" has nothing to do with the dictionary. The dictionary is simply a device that provides the widely accepted (and many politically incorrect things are widely accepted) usage for terms in the English language. I can say making a crude comment on someone's internet post is, say, theft, but that doesn't make it true.
Besides, wheat would be murder too. Otherwise you're discriminating against plants. If you want to say "animals feel pain but plants don't" you will have to exclude bivalves, jellyfish, sponges, etc. from your definiton of animals (which is just flat out wrong). Pain was not in the defention of murder either. It only specified which species could be murdered, and you added other species that could be murdered. Otherwise you're twisting the definiton so much it is undeniably incorrect and you should use a different word.

"And saying humans have the "legal right" not to be killed, and following that with pets being "property by law" is extremely ironic as, humans, believe it or not used to be "property" by law and white humans had a "legal right" to own these slaves. Think for yourself a little, there are many flaws with the law, and living things being property "legally" is just a slave masters argument."

This legal right is simply the way things are right now, and so I used it to explain why you would get in trouble if you went around killing people. It was not the main meat of my argument, only an intro. The other reasons, as I explained, are a sense of altruism possessed by normal, socically acceptable humans, and the fact that it is nessecary for a conductive functional society.

As for slavery:
In the past people believed it was okay to keep slaves. Now, we have decided that wasn't the case. These slaves, as members of the same species as those who kept them, were pretty much exactly the same as them except for skin color. These were people who could benefit from rights, use rights, and in turn not violate others' rights, and so they deserved rights and got them. I have yet to see an organism of another species do this, or even attempt to. This whole thing would have been clear had you carefully read my post.

As for pets:
See the above on animals requesting rights.
Even if they did have rights, they can't speak or act for them themselves. Therefore they would need a legal representative and caretaker, who would act in their best interests, and transferring this responsibilty must be simple (how many minors are orphaned, adopted, or otherwise "transfered" each year compared to how many people have to transfer ownership of their pets?). At the same time though there must be a way to handle situations of pets being taken or harmed. Property is therefore the most suitable status for them, in terms of practicality. They also get animal abuse laws due to their status as animals.
I'm perfectly aware the law is flawed (again with the behavior that repels so many people from your ideas before they hear them out). It is a reflection of society, which is flawed as well, but in a world without real, objective morality, sometimes society, and simple personal values are the best thing to go by. Again, you missed the point of my argument, which did not hinge on these pets' legal status.


"I have no issue with small time farmers killing their livestock if they have no other means of survival, factory farms and farming for money on the other hand, i [sic] do have an issue with. As it happens a proper vegan diet is infinitely healthier and more nutritional than an animal based diet, and yes plant proteins,omega 3's[sic] and all, there's no argument against vegan diets done right."

Guess what, I, like many "carnivores," "murderers," "doo-doo heads," or whatever name you want to call us, have an issue with factory farming too. Again, hunting and fishing.

No argument against vegan diets done right....
Except the fact that you kill off "pests" many times more nutritious than the crop you're saving in the name of the idea. This waste of such a valuable untapped (for the Western world at least) resource is one of the biggest reasons I am a wholehearted supporter of entomophagy. Look it up, and you can see that it is the way of the future.



I respect the fact that you wish to try and live a more compassionate lifestyle through your diet, but I don't respect coming onto a random image you disagree with and posting rude comments, be you vegan, meat-eater, whatever. Again, that pushes away more people than it brings to your cause.
If you want to take action against fur, do so in a way that will actually make a change.


I get the idea that this could drag on a while, so I won't reply anymore. I don't think anything valuable could come of it anyway (another effect of the attitude; an "it's my way or the highway" belief that will actually throw more people out to the highway than if the stance wasn't taken).
Again, I advise that your time would be better spent taking your cause to a place and time where you can advance it.
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whenwolveshowl Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
How old are you? I am 14 and making more sense than you. I was brain washed by the cruelty that happened to animals by these fur farms but once I felt my friends tail I fell I love with the tails and finally bought my own after learning more about the animal and how they are pests
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UpsideDownCross Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
haha a 14 year old trying to lecture me, ill end it right here.
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whenwolveshowl Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Considering I know more about it the you do.
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Pudding-Is-My-Life Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm with you on this one...and don't get me wrong I'm not blaming or getting mad at the owner of this photo for owning this fur, and I don't have an issue with those who own these furs if they respect them. I just feel like its very morally wrong that humans slaughter animals at a young age just to take their furs from them because they look nice. I feel like its a waste of a life, being in a cage or pen and then killed, even if the killing is done humanely, and animals are far more beautiful when they're alive than dead...But again, I'm not here to blame, only to say my opinion of fur farms and what they do to animals to make a profit.
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UpsideDownCross Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I get what youre saying but the very act of owning a fur cannot be respectful, the only way to get a fur is by taking it from a dead body, so to me once you cross that line there is no respect.
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AdarkerNEMISIS Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Really, that's how your going to argue this, I'm sorry but you can throw everything at me. It does not phase me I've been through this for 10 years! I've heard it all!

I really don't want to be mean but your voice is falling on deaf ears.
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Zombie-Kumos Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Lol. Lookit em Kanato. Yo mama jokes. :lmao: we really are in third grade.
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